Agree, but I do not think there should be a rate differential. DO not reward those who are inefficient, just because this is the way they have always done business. The 'per trip' should be based upon the fact that you transported the individual, not based upon what vehicle you transported in. Todd Frick Triad Residential Solutions Falcon Financial Services (419) 482-0711 -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 8/28/14, David A. Rastoka <drastoka@scioto-trails.net> wrote: Subject: RE: Vorys Nonmedical Transportation - Commentary - NEED FEEDBACK. To: "opra_members@opra.simplelists.com" <opra_members@opra.simplelists.com> Date: Thursday, August 28, 2014, 1:40 PM _filtered #yiv1976813987 { font-family:Calibri;} _filtered #yiv1976813987 { font-family:Tahoma;} _filtered #yiv1976813987 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;} #yiv1976813987 P.yiv1976813987MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE:11pt;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;} #yiv1976813987 LI.yiv1976813987MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE:11pt;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;} #yiv1976813987 DIV.yiv1976813987MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE:11pt;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;} #yiv1976813987 A:link { TEXT-DECORATION:underline;COLOR:blue;} #yiv1976813987 SPAN.yiv1976813987MsoHyperlink { TEXT-DECORATION:underline;COLOR:blue;} #yiv1976813987 A:visited { TEXT-DECORATION:underline;COLOR:purple;} #yiv1976813987 SPAN.yiv1976813987MsoHyperlinkFollowed { TEXT-DECORATION:underline;COLOR:purple;} #yiv1976813987 P.yiv1976813987MsoAcetate { FONT-SIZE:8pt;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;} #yiv1976813987 LI.yiv1976813987MsoAcetate { FONT-SIZE:8pt;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;} #yiv1976813987 DIV.yiv1976813987MsoAcetate { FONT-SIZE:8pt;MARGIN:0in 0in 0pt;} #yiv1976813987 SPAN.yiv1976813987EmailStyle17 { COLOR:windowtext;} #yiv1976813987 SPAN.yiv1976813987BalloonTextChar { } #yiv1976813987 .yiv1976813987MsoChpDefault { } #yiv1976813987 #yiv1976813987 --P { MARGIN-BOTTOM:0px;MARGIN-TOP:0px;} #yiv1976813987 As I am reading through these guidelines - it appears that our field is moving forward with the new CMS Rules/PCP etc but NOT our transportation rules. Read below. 9 passenger vans, logos on both sides. These large passenger vehicles in the majority of the waiver settings are truly prehistoric. I understand that larger buses may still be used but how many of us transports 3 to 4 individuals to work and we have to use 9 passenger vans or larger to receive our NMT per person, per trip rate? Logos on the side but yet we are pushing to mainstream our folks into society through vocational opportunities and activities. When my mom dropped off her 4 kids at school in our 1973 green station wagon, we didn't have the "Rastoka Clan" posted on the side of our vehicle. Come on - we are better than this. If we are going to "move the needle" as Director Martin says, then let's not pick and choose where to move the needle. Let's do it across the board. We need two NMT per person, per trip rates. One for the agencies that truly need larger vehicles and a smaller rate for 5 passenger min-vans with no logos that screams MR!!! Let's get rid of these stupid big vans that are gas hogs. We need to bring this rule into the 21st Century. Thoughts? Read this: A. Markings: CMVs must have the following markings: · Legal name or trade name of the corporation or Provider operating the motor vehicle. · The ID number issued by the PUCO or the identification number issued by the U.S. Department of Transportation. · Markings must appear on both sides of the vehicle in letters that contrast sharply with the background on which the letters are placed. · Markings must be legible during daylight hours from a distance of 50 feet while the vehicle is stationary. 49 C.F.R 390.21 and O.A.C. 4901:2-5-10. Dave Rastoka President Advancing Abilities Inc www.aabilities.net From: list-manager@opra.simplelists.com [list-manager@opra.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Anita Allen [aallen@opra.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 3:35 PM To: opra_members@opra.simplelists.com Subject: Vorys Nonmedical Transportation Briefing Revised.docx Per my email earlier this week, attached is a revised briefing on non-medical transportation. Conflicting directives from different oversight agencies have been investigated and addressed. Please disregard the earlier version and use this one. Thanks for your comments and apologies for any confusion. Anita Allen Vice President Ohio Provider Resource Association 1152 Goodale Blvd Columbus OH 43212 614-224-6772 x110 614-224-3340 fax The Trusted Voice for Providers Serving Ohioans with Disabilities. 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