Great question Justin, great discussion!   Looks like we need to explore and give some official guidance on this issue.

You even got Than to respond...he never comments on anything :)

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On Mar 30, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Than Johnson <TJohnson@CRSI-OH.com<mailto:TJohnson@CRSI-OH.com>> wrote:

Yes sir.
thanks

Than Johnson
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Office: 937-653-1307
Mobile: 937-776-5515

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Subject: RE: Seat Belts

Better to check now vs. insurance carrier denning claim because staff had improper insurance😊

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Subject: RE: Seat Belts

Agree, but watch out for the insurance carrier to ask if we pay staff to transport people in their own vehicles , therefore expose our staff to added insurance costs .
Than

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Subject: RE: Seat Belts

Maybe check with your insurance carriers, if someone gets hurt or dies and does not have a seatbelt on they may want to chime in.

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Subject: Re: Seat Belts

It would not be a rights restriction to refuse a trip if you have a company policy requiring that everyone wear seat belts in your company vehicles. Those vehicles are not owned by the individual and can therefore be governed by your company policies as long as those policies are not discriminatory (applied to some but not all).

It would be a rights restriction to refuse a trip in a vehicle that the individual had paid for/funded or to refuse a trip in a company vehicle without an organizational policy in place.

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On Mar 30, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Laryssa Ingebo <laryssa-ingebo@ti-inc.org<mailto:laryssa-ingebo@ti-inc.org>> wrote:
Sorry that should say **vehicle in use** not vehicle and youth.

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On Mar 30, 2018, at 10:28 AM, Laryssa Ingebo <laryssa-ingebo@ti-inc.org<mailto:laryssa-ingebo@ti-inc.org>> wrote:
ADA allows anyone to refuse a seatbelt even if it is a violation of state law (their right as you mentioned). The only way around this if create a company policy (which could only apply to vehicles owned by your company) that anyone riding in a company vehicle must wear a seatbelt. If the vehicle and youth is funded by the individuals being served then you would not be able to enforce such a policy. This also has to be a blanket policy that applies to everyone; it cannot apply to some and not others or that would be considered an ADA violation.

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On Mar 30, 2018, at 10:02 AM, Justin Blumhorst <justin.blumhorst@capabilitiesinc.biz<mailto:justin.blumhorst@capabilitiesinc.biz>> wrote:
Hello Everyone!

We have recently had a conversation about seat belts for people we are serving... Our policy is that people should have their seatbelts on when we travel with them... Duh... These people are being transported in our company cars... Sometimes it is for NMT, sometimes it is just for OOD services where that transportation cost is built into the full fee to provide the service.

But, I'm thinking it would be a rights restriction if we refuse to transport them because they refuse to put their seatbelt on... I'm thinking a waiver or something would need to be signed saying they recognize the risk, but I thought I would bring it up to everyone to see what their thoughts are :)

Just let me know your thoughts!

Have a great weekend!

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