We have an Emergency Medical form with the info they would need that is given to them (approved by guardian). Guardian and team are contacted and informed after EMS. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 8, 2014, at 7:29 PM, "OPRA List Serve" <nobody@simplelists.com<mailto:nobody@simplelists.com>> wrote: EMS - Stacy Evans (08 Aug 2014 15:00 UTC) RE: EMS - Jarrod J. Hunt, CEO, Private Investigator (08 Aug 2014 15:05 UTC) RE: EMS - Ruth Dodge (08 Aug 2014 15:24 UTC) RE: EMS - Stacy Evans (08 Aug 2014 15:44 UTC) RE: EMS - Tiffany Martin (08 Aug 2014 15:08 UTC) RE: EMS - Ruth Dodge (08 Aug 2014 15:26 UTC) RE: EMS - Stacy Evans (08 Aug 2014 15:35 UTC) Re: EMS - pcbethany@prodigy.net<mailto:pcbethany@prodigy.net> (08 Aug 2014 15:19 UTC) ________________________________ EMS<http://opra.simplelists.com/opra_members/msg/1949865> by Stacy Evans<mailto:stacy.evans@mountaloysius.org> (08 Aug 2014 15:00 UTC) Reply to list<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com?Subject=Re: EMS&References= <007f01cfb319$7f1f3660$7d5da320$@mountaloysius.org>> Today we had an unusual incident with our local EMS and am asking this group if they have had a similar experience. An individual was at the workshop and was complaining of chest pains. The squad was called. They refused to transport him to the ER unless we contacted guardian to make sure it was ok or else they could be charged with kidnapping. The workshop administrator questioned EMS that if a 14 year old went to the ground complaining of chest pains, would they not transport until mom or dad could be reached. EMS just reiterated that they cannot transport w/o guardian consent. This seems like extremely dangerous practice to me, but wondered if anyone else has experienced it. APSI recently asked why we did not call them first to get permission before sending someone out by squad too. In all of the MUI trainings I’ve been to, we’ve been encouraged to contact EMS/911 first so someone does not have serious consequences from calling around before getting appropriate emergency treatment. Thoughts? Stacy Evans, MSW, Licensed Social Worker Mount Aloysius, Corp. 5375 Tile Plant Road PO Box 598 New Lexington, Ohio 43764 888-900-80836 ________________________________ RE: EMS<http://opra.simplelists.com/opra_members/msg/1949887> by Jarrod J. Hunt, CEO, Private Investigator<mailto:jjhunt@wynn-reeth.com> (08 Aug 2014 15:05 UTC) Reply to list<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com?Subject=Re: EMS&References=<007f01cfb319$7f1f3660$7d5da320$@mountaloysius.org> <CFFDF0267979444C814512FC567A85D64401BEF4@CHANCE.wynnreeth.local>> Shouldn’t there be an emergency medical form on file there indicating that consent is granted? Jarrod J. Hunt, CEO Wynn-Reeth, Inc. P.O. Box 785 137 S. Broadway St. Green Springs, OH 44836 419.639.2094 x 104 http://www.wynn-reeth.com/ From: list-manager@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com> [mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Stacy Evans Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 11:01 AM To: opra_members@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com> Subject: EMS Today we had an unusual incident with our local EMS and am asking this group if they have had a similar experience. An individual was at the workshop and was complaining of chest pains. The squad was called. They refused to transport him to the ER unless we contacted guardian to make sure it was ok or else they could be charged with kidnapping. The workshop administrator questioned EMS that if a 14 year old went to the ground complaining of chest pains, would they not transport until mom or dad could be reached. EMS just reiterated that they cannot transport w/o guardian consent. This seems like extremely dangerous practice to me, but wondered if anyone else has experienced it. APSI recently asked why we did not call them first to get permission before sending someone out by squad too. In all of the MUI trainings I’ve been to, we’ve been encouraged to contact EMS/911 first so someone does not have serious consequences from calling around before getting appropriate emergency treatment. Thoughts? Stacy Evans, MSW, Licensed Social Worker Mount Aloysius, Corp. 5375 Tile Plant Road PO Box 598 New Lexington, Ohio 43764 888-900-80836 You are receiving this important information as a member service of the Ohio Provider Resource Association. Unless messages and/or replies are specifically directed, each posting/response is sent to the entire group. This group is open only to OPRA members, a large and diverse body. The views of individual list serve users do not necessarily reflect the view of the OPRA Board or Staff. To send a message to this list serve, please use the reply button. To reply only to the original sender, please respond to the email listed after "on behalf of" in the FROM line of the message header. Thank you. Please be sure to check us out at www.wynn-reeth.com<http://www.wynn-reeth.com>, or for your home security needs you can visit us at www.rssmonitoring.com<http://www.rssmonitoring.com>. This email is the property of the Wynn-Reeth, Inc. It may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). No addressee should reproduce this message in any manner that would allow it to be viewed by anyone not originally listed as a recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message. ________________________________ RE: EMS<http://opra.simplelists.com/opra_members/msg/1949923> by Ruth Dodge<mailto:RDodge@whv.org> (08 Aug 2014 15:24 UTC) Reply to list<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com?Subject=Re: EMS&References=<007f01cfb319$7f1f3660$7d5da320$@mountaloysius.org> <CFFDF0267979444C814512FC567A85D64401BEF4@CHANCE.wynnreeth.local> <C5F34326783F3749AF287A3AEA2F604AC0BC1C68@EXC01.WHH.WHV.LOCAL>> Our agency had a similar situation when EMS didn’t want to transport someone because vital signs were fairly stable (but upon hospital admission had significant medical issues). Also, the individual said he didn’t want to go to the hospital when asked by EMS. The on call person asked EMS to stay until the guardian could be called. The guardian talked directly to EMS to confirm that the guardian wanted transport. From: list-manager@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com> [mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Jarrod J. Hunt, CEO, Private Investigator Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 11:06 AM To: opra_members@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com> Subject: RE: EMS Shouldn’t there be an emergency medical form on file there indicating that consent is granted? Jarrod J. Hunt, CEO Wynn-Reeth, Inc. P.O. Box 785 137 S. Broadway St. Green Springs, OH 44836 419.639.2094 x 104 http://www.wynn-reeth.com/ From: list-manager@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com> [mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Stacy Evans Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 11:01 AM To: opra_members@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com> Subject: EMS Today we had an unusual incident with our local EMS and am asking this group if they have had a similar experience. An individual was at the workshop and was complaining of chest pains. The squad was called. They refused to transport him to the ER unless we contacted guardian to make sure it was ok or else they could be charged with kidnapping. The workshop administrator questioned EMS that if a 14 year old went to the ground complaining of chest pains, would they not transport until mom or dad could be reached. EMS just reiterated that they cannot transport w/o guardian consent. This seems like extremely dangerous practice to me, but wondered if anyone else has experienced it. APSI recently asked why we did not call them first to get permission before sending someone out by squad too. In all of the MUI trainings I’ve been to, we’ve been encouraged to contact EMS/911 first so someone does not have serious consequences from calling around before getting appropriate emergency treatment. Thoughts? Stacy Evans, MSW, Licensed Social Worker Mount Aloysius, Corp. 5375 Tile Plant Road PO Box 598 New Lexington, Ohio 43764 888-900-80836 You are receiving this important information as a member service of the Ohio Provider Resource Association. Unless messages and/or replies are specifically directed, each posting/response is sent to the entire group. This group is open only to OPRA members, a large and diverse body. The views of individual list serve users do not necessarily reflect the view of the OPRA Board or Staff. To send a message to this list serve, please use the reply button. To reply only to the original sender, please respond to the email listed after "on behalf of" in the FROM line of the message header. Thank you. Please be sure to check us out at www.wynn-reeth.com<http://www.wynn-reeth.com>, or for your home security needs you can visit us at www.rssmonitoring.com<http://www.rssmonitoring.com>. This email is the property of the Wynn-Reeth, Inc. It may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). No addressee should reproduce this message in any manner that would allow it to be viewed by anyone not originally listed as a recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message. You are receiving this important information as a member service of the Ohio Provider Resource Association. Unless messages and/or replies are specifically directed, each posting/response is sent to the entire group. This group is open only to OPRA members, a large and diverse body. The views of individual list serve users do not necessarily reflect the view of the OPRA Board or Staff. To send a message to this list serve, please use the reply button. To reply only to the original sender, please respond to the email listed after "on behalf of" in the FROM line of the message header. Thank you. Ruth Dodge Executive Director of Programs for Developmental Disabilities Adults with Developmental Disabilities | Shalom House, Inc. 614-239-1999 (office) 614-239-1367 (fax) whv.org<www.whv.org> The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure by the Health Insurance Portability & Accountability Act (HIPAA). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of the communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. ________________________________ RE: EMS<http://opra.simplelists.com/opra_members/msg/1949937> by Stacy Evans<mailto:stacy.evans@mountaloysius.org> (08 Aug 2014 15:44 UTC) Reply to list<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com?Subject=Re: EMS&References=<007f01cfb319$7f1f3660$7d5da320$@mountaloysius.org> <CFFDF0267979444C814512FC567A85D64401BEF4@CHANCE.wynnreeth.local> <C5F34326783F3749AF287A3AEA2F604AC0BC1C68@EXC01.WHH.WHV.LOCAL> <00b301cfb31f$a47f54c0$ed7dfe40$@mountaloysius.org>> Ok. That makes sense. Thank you! Stacy Evans, MSW, Licensed Social Worker Mount Aloysius, Corp. 5375 Tile Plant Road PO Box 598 New Lexington, Ohio 43764 888-900-80836 From: list-manager@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com> [mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Ruth Dodge Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 11:24 AM To: 'opra_members@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com>' Subject: RE: EMS Our agency had a similar situation when EMS didn’t want to transport someone because vital signs were fairly stable (but upon hospital admission had significant medical issues). Also, the individual said he didn’t want to go to the hospital when asked by EMS. The on call person asked EMS to stay until the guardian could be called. The guardian talked directly to EMS to confirm that the guardian wanted transport. From: list-manager@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com> [mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Jarrod J. Hunt, CEO, Private Investigator Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 11:06 AM To: opra_members@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com> Subject: RE: EMS Shouldn’t there be an emergency medical form on file there indicating that consent is granted? Jarrod J. Hunt, CEO Wynn-Reeth, Inc. P.O. Box 785 137 S. Broadway St. Green Springs, OH 44836 419.639.2094 x 104 http://www.wynn-reeth.com/ From: list-manager@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com> [mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Stacy Evans Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 11:01 AM To: opra_members@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com> Subject: EMS Today we had an unusual incident with our local EMS and am asking this group if they have had a similar experience. An individual was at the workshop and was complaining of chest pains. The squad was called. They refused to transport him to the ER unless we contacted guardian to make sure it was ok or else they could be charged with kidnapping. The workshop administrator questioned EMS that if a 14 year old went to the ground complaining of chest pains, would they not transport until mom or dad could be reached. EMS just reiterated that they cannot transport w/o guardian consent. This seems like extremely dangerous practice to me, but wondered if anyone else has experienced it. APSI recently asked why we did not call them first to get permission before sending someone out by squad too. In all of the MUI trainings I’ve been to, we’ve been encouraged to contact EMS/911 first so someone does not have serious consequences from calling around before getting appropriate emergency treatment. Thoughts? Stacy Evans, MSW, Licensed Social Worker Mount Aloysius, Corp. 5375 Tile Plant Road PO Box 598 New Lexington, Ohio 43764 888-900-80836 You are receiving this important information as a member service of the Ohio Provider Resource Association. Unless messages and/or replies are specifically directed, each posting/response is sent to the entire group. This group is open only to OPRA members, a large and diverse body. The views of individual list serve users do not necessarily reflect the view of the OPRA Board or Staff. To send a message to this list serve, please use the reply button. To reply only to the original sender, please respond to the email listed after "on behalf of" in the FROM line of the message header. Thank you. Please be sure to check us out at www.wynn-reeth.com<http://www.wynn-reeth.com>, or for your home security needs you can visit us at www.rssmonitoring.com<http://www.rssmonitoring.com>. This email is the property of the Wynn-Reeth, Inc. It may be legally privileged and/or confidential and is intended only for the use of the addressee(s). No addressee should reproduce this message in any manner that would allow it to be viewed by anyone not originally listed as a recipient. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized use is strictly prohibited. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by this email. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message. You are receiving this important information as a member service of the Ohio Provider Resource Association. Unless messages and/or replies are specifically directed, each posting/response is sent to the entire group. This group is open only to OPRA members, a large and diverse body. The views of individual list serve users do not necessarily reflect the view of the OPRA Board or Staff. To send a message to this list serve, please use the reply button. To reply only to the original sender, please respond to the email listed after "on behalf of" in the FROM line of the message header. Thank you. Ruth Dodge Executive Director of Programs for Developmental Disabilities Adults with Developmental Disabilities | Shalom House, Inc. 614-239-1999 (office) 614-239-1367 (fax) whv.org<www.whv.org> The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure by the Health Insurance Portability & Accountability Act (HIPAA). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of the communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. You are receiving this important information as a member service of the Ohio Provider Resource Association. Unless messages and/or replies are specifically directed, each posting/response is sent to the entire group. This group is open only to OPRA members, a large and diverse body. The views of individual list serve users do not necessarily reflect the view of the OPRA Board or Staff. To send a message to this list serve, please use the reply button. To reply only to the original sender, please respond to the email listed after "on behalf of" in the FROM line of the message header. Thank you. ________________________________ RE: EMS<http://opra.simplelists.com/opra_members/msg/1949899> by Tiffany Martin<mailto:Tiffany.Martin@gwcols.com> (08 Aug 2014 15:08 UTC) Reply to list<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com?Subject=Re: EMS&References=<007f01cfb319$7f1f3660$7d5da320$@mountaloysius.org> <94E7997BA9F24248AF7695C8B33C61C880855AA3@MB.gwcols.com>> Goodwill ICF has an emergency consent form that has the guardian’s signature that gives “authorization for emergency treatment, transportation, medical, dental, or hospitalization.” Then we specify which hospital of preference the guardian would like. From: list-manager@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com> [mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Stacy Evans Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 10:59 AM To: opra_members@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com> Subject: EMS Today we had an unusual incident with our local EMS and am asking this group if they have had a similar experience. An individual was at the workshop and was complaining of chest pains. The squad was called. They refused to transport him to the ER unless we contacted guardian to make sure it was ok or else they could be charged with kidnapping. The workshop administrator questioned EMS that if a 14 year old went to the ground complaining of chest pains, would they not transport until mom or dad could be reached. EMS just reiterated that they cannot transport w/o guardian consent. This seems like extremely dangerous practice to me, but wondered if anyone else has experienced it. APSI recently asked why we did not call them first to get permission before sending someone out by squad too. In all of the MUI trainings I’ve been to, we’ve been encouraged to contact EMS/911 first so someone does not have serious consequences from calling around before getting appropriate emergency treatment. Thoughts? Stacy Evans, MSW, Licensed Social Worker Mount Aloysius, Corp. 5375 Tile Plant Road PO Box 598 New Lexington, Ohio 43764 888-900-80836 You are receiving this important information as a member service of the Ohio Provider Resource Association. Unless messages and/or replies are specifically directed, each posting/response is sent to the entire group. This group is open only to OPRA members, a large and diverse body. The views of individual list serve users do not necessarily reflect the view of the OPRA Board or Staff. To send a message to this list serve, please use the reply button. To reply only to the original sender, please respond to the email listed after "on behalf of" in the FROM line of the message header. Thank you. ________________________________ RE: EMS<http://opra.simplelists.com/opra_members/msg/1949927> by Ruth Dodge<mailto:RDodge@whv.org> (08 Aug 2014 15:26 UTC) Reply to list<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com?Subject=Re: EMS&References=<007f01cfb319$7f1f3660$7d5da320$@mountaloysius.org> <94E7997BA9F24248AF7695C8B33C61C880855AA3@MB.gwcols.com> <C5F34326783F3749AF287A3AEA2F604AC0BC1CBB@EXC01.WHH.WHV.LOCAL>> Our agency had a similar form, but they still wouldn’t transport until the guardian spoke to them. From: list-manager@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com> [mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Tiffany Martin Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 11:09 AM To: opra_members@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com> Subject: RE: EMS Goodwill ICF has an emergency consent form that has the guardian’s signature that gives “authorization for emergency treatment, transportation, medical, dental, or hospitalization.” Then we specify which hospital of preference the guardian would like. From: list-manager@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com> [mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Stacy Evans Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 10:59 AM To: opra_members@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com> Subject: EMS Today we had an unusual incident with our local EMS and am asking this group if they have had a similar experience. An individual was at the workshop and was complaining of chest pains. The squad was called. They refused to transport him to the ER unless we contacted guardian to make sure it was ok or else they could be charged with kidnapping. The workshop administrator questioned EMS that if a 14 year old went to the ground complaining of chest pains, would they not transport until mom or dad could be reached. EMS just reiterated that they cannot transport w/o guardian consent. This seems like extremely dangerous practice to me, but wondered if anyone else has experienced it. APSI recently asked why we did not call them first to get permission before sending someone out by squad too. In all of the MUI trainings I’ve been to, we’ve been encouraged to contact EMS/911 first so someone does not have serious consequences from calling around before getting appropriate emergency treatment. Thoughts? Stacy Evans, MSW, Licensed Social Worker Mount Aloysius, Corp. 5375 Tile Plant Road PO Box 598 New Lexington, Ohio 43764 888-900-80836 You are receiving this important information as a member service of the Ohio Provider Resource Association. Unless messages and/or replies are specifically directed, each posting/response is sent to the entire group. This group is open only to OPRA members, a large and diverse body. The views of individual list serve users do not necessarily reflect the view of the OPRA Board or Staff. To send a message to this list serve, please use the reply button. To reply only to the original sender, please respond to the email listed after "on behalf of" in the FROM line of the message header. Thank you. You are receiving this important information as a member service of the Ohio Provider Resource Association. Unless messages and/or replies are specifically directed, each posting/response is sent to the entire group. This group is open only to OPRA members, a large and diverse body. The views of individual list serve users do not necessarily reflect the view of the OPRA Board or Staff. To send a message to this list serve, please use the reply button. To reply only to the original sender, please respond to the email listed after "on behalf of" in the FROM line of the message header. Thank you. Ruth Dodge Executive Director of Programs for Developmental Disabilities Adults with Developmental Disabilities | Shalom House, Inc. 614-239-1999 (office) 614-239-1367 (fax) whv.org<www.whv.org> The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure by the Health Insurance Portability & Accountability Act (HIPAA). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of the communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. ________________________________ RE: EMS<http://opra.simplelists.com/opra_members/msg/1949935> by Stacy Evans<mailto:stacy.evans@mountaloysius.org> (08 Aug 2014 15:35 UTC) Reply to list<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com?Subject=Re: EMS&References=<007f01cfb319$7f1f3660$7d5da320$@mountaloysius.org> <94E7997BA9F24248AF7695C8B33C61C880855AA3@MB.gwcols.com> <00a601cfb31e$690352d0$3b09f870$@mountaloysius.org>> There is one on file, but EMS insisted we call guardian. The same with APSI. Even though they signed consent, they prefer that we call them before we send anyone out. It was explained to APSI that if it a true emergency, we are sending calling 911 regardless and APSI will be notified as we have always done. Stacy Evans, MSW, Licensed Social Worker Mount Aloysius, Corp. 5375 Tile Plant Road PO Box 598 New Lexington, Ohio 43764 888-900-80836 From: list-manager@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com> [mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Tiffany Martin Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 11:09 AM To: opra_members@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com> Subject: RE: EMS Goodwill ICF has an emergency consent form that has the guardian’s signature that gives “authorization for emergency treatment, transportation, medical, dental, or hospitalization.” Then we specify which hospital of preference the guardian would like. From: list-manager@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com> [mailto:list-manager@opra.simplelists.com] On Behalf Of Stacy Evans Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 10:59 AM To: opra_members@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com> Subject: EMS Today we had an unusual incident with our local EMS and am asking this group if they have had a similar experience. An individual was at the workshop and was complaining of chest pains. The squad was called. They refused to transport him to the ER unless we contacted guardian to make sure it was ok or else they could be charged with kidnapping. The workshop administrator questioned EMS that if a 14 year old went to the ground complaining of chest pains, would they not transport until mom or dad could be reached. EMS just reiterated that they cannot transport w/o guardian consent. This seems like extremely dangerous practice to me, but wondered if anyone else has experienced it. APSI recently asked why we did not call them first to get permission before sending someone out by squad too. In all of the MUI trainings I’ve been to, we’ve been encouraged to contact EMS/911 first so someone does not have serious consequences from calling around before getting appropriate emergency treatment. Thoughts? Stacy Evans, MSW, Licensed Social Worker Mount Aloysius, Corp. 5375 Tile Plant Road PO Box 598 New Lexington, Ohio 43764 888-900-80836 You are receiving this important information as a member service of the Ohio Provider Resource Association. Unless messages and/or replies are specifically directed, each posting/response is sent to the entire group. This group is open only to OPRA members, a large and diverse body. The views of individual list serve users do not necessarily reflect the view of the OPRA Board or Staff. To send a message to this list serve, please use the reply button. To reply only to the original sender, please respond to the email listed after "on behalf of" in the FROM line of the message header. Thank you. You are receiving this important information as a member service of the Ohio Provider Resource Association. Unless messages and/or replies are specifically directed, each posting/response is sent to the entire group. This group is open only to OPRA members, a large and diverse body. The views of individual list serve users do not necessarily reflect the view of the OPRA Board or Staff. To send a message to this list serve, please use the reply button. To reply only to the original sender, please respond to the email listed after "on behalf of" in the FROM line of the message header. Thank you. ________________________________ Re: EMS<http://opra.simplelists.com/opra_members/msg/1949921> by pcbethany@prodigy.net<mailto:pcbethany@prodigy.net> (08 Aug 2014 15:19 UTC) Reply to list<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com?Subject=Re: EMS&References= <1407511175.77181.YahooMailAndroidMobile@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>> Hi Stacey, I have not ever experienced this. However, I can share that we have always relied on an emergency authorization form that we have signed annually by guardians. This has always been sufficient when seeking emergency medical treatment. I agree with you, the guardian should be the second call! Bethany Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android<https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android> From: Stacy Evans <stacy.evans@mountaloysius.org<mailto:stacy.evans@mountaloysius.org>>; To: <opra_members@opra.simplelists.com<mailto:opra_members@opra.simplelists.com>>; Subject: EMS Sent: Fri, Aug 8, 2014 3:00:30 PM Today we had an unusual incident with our local EMS and am asking this group if they have had a similar experience. An individual was at the workshop and was complaining of chest pains. The squad was called. They refused to transport him to the ER unless we contacted guardian to make sure it was ok or else they could be charged with kidnapping. The workshop administrator questioned EMS that if a 14 year old went to the ground complaining of chest pains, would they not transport until mom or dad could be reached. EMS just reiterated that they cannot transport w/o guardian consent. This seems like extremely dangerous practice to me, but wondered if anyone else has experienced it. APSI recently asked why we did not call them first to get permission before sending someone out by squad too. In all of the MUI trainings I’ve been to, we’ve been encouraged to contact EMS/911 first so someone does not have serious consequences from calling around before getting appropriate emergency treatment. Thoughts? Stacy Evans, MSW, Licensed Social Worker Mount Aloysius, Corp. 5375 Tile Plant Road PO Box 598 New Lexington, Ohio 43764 888-900-80836 ________________________________ You are receiving this important information as a member service of the Ohio Provider Resource Association. Unless messages and/or replies are specifically directed, each posting/response is sent to the entire group. This group is open only to OPRA members, a large and diverse body. The views of individual list serve users do not necessarily reflect the view of the OPRA Board or Staff. To send a message to this list serve, please use the reply button. To reply only to the original sender, please respond to the email listed after "on behalf of" in the FROM line of the message header. Thank you.
