I think it depends on what the goals that you are working on during the day hab hours. We run our normal 9-2 day hab hours, but when my staff wants to take the people to an event that is in the evening, we change our hours to 2-7 PM. The goals of everyone we are working with during those hours is community inclusion and community exploration. 

From 2-7 PM, for some people, it is socially appropriate to have a drink during dinner. I think it is important to go over with people how to do this appropriately, and like others have said earlier in this thread, to get the whole team on board with this and what the implications are. 

During the day, I would agree, it probably is not appropriate to have a drink if you are volunteering and doing other events. But, if our dayhab event is to go to a baseball game, I think it could be socially appropriate and once again important to go over what the implications are during this time. 

JB

On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 9:24 AM, Debi Russell <Debi.Russell@coricare.com> wrote:

In my opinion Day Hab is like school or work and alcohol should not be permitted in these settings. 

 

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I see a lot of things to consider with the idea, and not just thinking about medication interaction and seeking team agreement for each individual, but also from a liability and practical standpoint.

 

Wondering if you mean you would allow folks to bring alcohol from home (i.e. a can of beer in their lunch box), or if you would make drinks available to anyone interested.  If the latter, if you're serving alcohol and being reimbursed by individuals, as a business would you need a permit? Note also the state doesn't want providers "selling" anything to individuals. If you're not charging but rather serving free to anyone interested, will there be non alcoholic choices for others? And would the state consider free alcohol coercion to get people to come to your dayhab?

 

Regardless of if you provide the drinks or people bring them from home, staff will also have to be mindful of not only the restrictions for potential drinkers, but those around them who might pick up a drink left unattended and consume it very quickly and who might themselves be on medications with side effects.  


Will any alcohol need to be locked up until the appropriate time to protect those who shouldn't access it? If you do lock it up, would that be a rights restriction for those who brought the drinks from home?

 

Just some thoughts off the top of my head . . . 

 

 

 

On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Debi Russell <Debi.Russell@coricare.com> wrote:

I serve several folks that like to drink on occasion, holidays, with their friends, and on other special occasions.  We’ve always encouraged people to discuss the interaction of their specific medications with their PCP and then went from there. I have one particular person that has a med she has to skip if she plans to have a few drinks that night.  This is also written into her ISP.  Just like  anything else we encourage people to make wise choices, educate them to the best of our ability about the possible consequences, and support them when they make a decision. 

 

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 In most cases if there is any sort of an issue about a consumer wanting to drink alcohol it is addressed in the ISP meeting just so all bases are covered on what the consumer wants and to make sure there are no questions to the companies liability in this situation. It has to be looked at, we aren't to say if they can smoke or not or they don't follow a proper diet if they are diabetic and we tell them they have to. It is their right and at best we can do is advise them of what negative affects this can cause. Now if they have housemates and the drinking negatively affects the other consumers in the house the situation changes and there can be more restrictions involved. 

 From what we have run across as long as the consumer is of legal age the guardian doesn't have a great deal of say about it unless the consumer is living at home. They aren't happy about it but again they are adults and have there rights.

 We have never had a problem with the county on this subject as long as it is addressed in the ISP.

 Right now we have a gentleman that lives in a house with three other people and has beer in the refrigerator, everyone is on board. He is his own guardian. They have gone to gentleman's clubs and he has drank there. Staff of course is not to drink and we don't encourage them to wear a company t-shirt while they are out but so far everything has worked out fine.

   

 

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Hello! 

 

I wanted to hear what policies people have on people drinking alcohol while we are supporting them... We are extending hours when it would be socially appropriate for people to have a drink if they chose, so I'm interested in hearing what others have out there to instruct their staff. I'd also like to hear how you let team members (SSA's, guardians, etc) know that people may have an alcoholic drink... 

 

 

I'd love to hear your feedback! 

 

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